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what's up everybody

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happy monday

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hope you enjoyed your weekend

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hope you did fun

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stuff if you're like me

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your weekends aren't as crazy as they

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used to be

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you find yourself at walmart

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maybe looking at yard furniture

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maybe getting groceries

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light bulbs

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you know

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fixing patio doors that kind of stuff

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maybe he had an ant problem

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yeah

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i feel like will ferrell from uh old

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school maybe go to home depot i don't

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know get some stuff we'll see what the

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but the one second you have a chance

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you're

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no i i don't think i could handle that

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anymore but uh

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you know i

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there was a time there was a time that's

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for sure but

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not anymore those days are

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long gone for now so

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uh happy everybody's here uh great to

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see everybody in the chat brent jedi e.t

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uh and

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everybody uh lara josh christian

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witness citizen

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cognitive dissonance uh robert

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uh jose everybody i appreciate everybody

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for coming out and hanging out today

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we're gonna have a good time andre sam

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what's up everybody so today we have a

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very interesting guest so i'm not gonna

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lie i met him on socials met him on

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twitter uh seems like a very nice

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gentleman and he's

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uh an air force veteran and much respect

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for that i have a lot of respect for

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veterans

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um serving our country

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and uh he's he's had his own experiences

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um i wanted to do what i could to just

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try to give him a platform to maybe talk

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about his experiences and and what he's

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been through and maybe what he continues

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to go through so

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and just kind of get his take on other

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stuff too so

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uh we're gonna have a good time and talk

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with him his name is shane franks

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so without further ado i'll bring in

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the guest of the hour mr shane how are

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you sir

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i'm good thank you for having me

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yeah thanks for being here so

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i mean this is pretty nuts say ufo

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twitter and all that you're you're

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pretty new to it yeah before we get

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started can i say if you can wounded

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warriors save my life donate if you can

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the other thing take care of your mental

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health i was always good about well that

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and my wife saying you need some help so

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i always check myself in and i'm only

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here today and alive because of that

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yeah no no i appreciate it uh wounded

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warrior that's awesome

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any

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um operation or or you know thing that's

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uh to help veterans i'm all about it for

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sure and and psd

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ptsd i know it is a big issue there are

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you saying that you've had your own belt

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um yeah i got a i

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served from 2001 to 2010

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so i served nine years active duty had

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three tours uh between those two wars

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uh let's just say to summon up 2010 to

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so uh yeah

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when warrior came along saved my butt

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and then uh brings us to 2020 with the

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you were serving in the air force for

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all that time what where what were you

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doing there if you don't mind me asking

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were you flying jets or

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no shoot yeah i wish i was two fox one

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uh those jets wouldn't fly without fuels

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let's just say that pol um okay i

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refilled aircraft on the ground uh did a

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tour in pakistan qatar i flew some

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combat missions in and out of iraq and

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then an uneventful tournament incirlik

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but it was uh man good time

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yeah well thank you for your service man

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well a lot of respect for doing that for

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when you were when you were out there

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believed in any of this ever

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i'm still having a hard time

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my great grandfather who was a pilot

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during world war ii in korea he also

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wrote in his memoirs he told me twice

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he had two encounters one in a fighter

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the bomber aircraft uh

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it was a cigar-shaped object

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it was off in the distance and all it

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come up beside them do everything they

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did and then as a fighter aircraft same

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all i could think is this old man is

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crazy as [\h__\h]

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um i haven't i didn't have any

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experiences that i'm aware of until

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2020

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so that's when i first had my

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experiences not that i was paying

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attention or anything like that but when

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it came it came hard

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and it didn't make any sense to someone

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who loves aircraft i mean that's my

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passion i like to sit outside with my

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monocle and try to spot from so some of

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the stuff i've seen doesn't make a whole

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lot of sense to me and it kind of plays

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into the whole

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uh i just saw sean talk about you know

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things like

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when you dream where do you go things

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like this this is the kind of things i'm

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getting i've never seen a craft per se

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but i've seen things that fly that

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shouldn't be

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you know right yeah no i i definitely

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know what you mean um your grandfather

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served in world war ii

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foo fighters i know he called the foo

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fighters but he said that it was

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actually a cylindrical and like i had

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talked to you before i'll give you his

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information you can foil it actually

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because i'm pretty sure it's there yeah

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he had talked about it in two different

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experiences and two different air types

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of aircraft so wow

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crazy and one was a scar shape that's

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you know that the interesting thing

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there is sometimes i feel like there's

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like it follows your and i've heard this

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before it follows your bloodline type of

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thing like my grandfather saw

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um something you know he was in the navy

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but at the time he was just back at home

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it was a cigar shape with with like

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windows and all that kind of stuff so

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it's and here we are me and you you know

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our grandfather seen something cigar

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ship yeah so

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um you you know uh bringing up a little

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uh bringing the timeline a little closer

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to in 2020s that um

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that uh you started having

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you know experiences and kind of hit

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hard i guess

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um how did it hit you like uh was it

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just something you've seen or yeah tell

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me a little bit about your first one

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i guess the easiest way to explain it is

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i'm still under the assumption this

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stuff does not exist so imagine

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recording and seeing

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what i assumed were drones at first

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and it was later that i realized there's

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no way these are drones because someone

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would be spending a lot of effort and a

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lot of money to travel with me

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to put these things up so that i record

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them in multiple locations at specific

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times and so things like that don't make

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sense and i i know i had sent you a

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a video it almost

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out of context it looks like a bag

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it's 10 minutes of a bag

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right yeah except that's the third time

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i've seen it the only second time i

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recorded the first time it trailed me

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home from the mountains and i

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specifically told my wife i said what is

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what the heck is that and as i pointed

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to it the bag shot straight up and i was

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like wow that's the crazy and this is

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the first time so i assumed it was a bag

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that the one i sent you i was outside

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and i looked up and i i saw a glint in

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should we just play that a little clip

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of it just to give people some context

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i'm sorry okay

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i'll throw it up it's my life

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so this is just a real short clip of it

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i showed it a couple days ago too so

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it's like 22 seconds a short clip and

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this is the second time i've seen this

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the first time i tried to get a picture

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of it it literally trailed me from the

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mountains over the mountaintops and i

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couldn't get a shot of it but as i came

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into another town it was sitting at

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intersection hovering right the first

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time i saw it

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and i i saw it shoot straight up and i

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told my wife what the hell that back

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shot off like a rocket

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this is my second experience and i

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actually saw a glint in the sky

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i tried to record it

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and that's i think one of my first

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videos of that i sent and didn't pay any

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attention about five minutes later i

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look up and it's just hovering again i'm

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i went over to a doctor across the

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street and i said is that a bag

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or something

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yeah she goes i don't know it looks like

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it and then it starts going up

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and again i'm not saying what it is or

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what it is i'm just saying

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i may be the master of bags at this

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point plastic or something so you know

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i i just keep seeing these things

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and then i also have recordings of them

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at night it's harder to see what they

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are unless you're in the mountains and

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they're right above your head it's a lot

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easier to see them

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so interesting

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go ahead go ahead

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well i was just going to ask so so

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you're seeing these things you're you're

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recording things really you're trying to

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you're recording aircraft because you

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like you know watching aircraft and

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spotting out for aircraft and you see

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stuff like that

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did you notice anything else

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happened like you know i just had this

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guest on uh his name is james tooney and

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you know he goes the experience is kind

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of useless

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on its own really it's it's the effect

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um what kind of effect did it have on

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you so what i'm asking you is did any

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effect come with it you know

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what whatever it may be

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i gotta be careful with this because i

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can only tell you what i i think and i

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can tell you yeah so for me

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unlike most people they came to ufo

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twitter and all this has been coming

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along

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i'm the reverse

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i didn't start coming here i signed up a

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year ago on twitter and it's the only

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one i had it was because

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i thought i was losing my mind

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right

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so i signed up

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and most of my stuff that i've come into

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i'm very thankful for because

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other experiences for example skinwalker

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rants

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without saying too much there's only one

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other place that i've

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that and another airman who was on base

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who's seen

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shadow a shadow let's say that right and

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again as crazy as that sounds

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i'm also the person that would freak out

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and see something like that and go get a

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psyche out right

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yeah me too

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yeah nothing ever happens again like

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that it's like but then the continuous

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nature of all these things the only

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thing i could pull out of it is

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i can't say

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i know there's negative side effects

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i can't find any positive but i don't

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have any negative right

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sure if you saw me two years ago and you

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saw me now

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you two different people right and now i

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can't say it's them

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at that point in my life whenever all of

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a sudden

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again i also agree with why kind of not

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how they handled the government this is

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a world shaken event

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i'm going through an ex external crisis

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as it is trying to figure out who the

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hell i am after the war all this other

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stuff and on top of that i've got this

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now everything i've been told everything

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that's in a book that they say it's all

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answers are here it's not there

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so at that point

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i lost my [\h__\h] i'm not gonna lie i was

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just kind of like what is going on you

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know

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and then i started realizing

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that

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i could seek answers

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being curious it actually opened me up

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to a lot of things

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uh cahill um

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man

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valet

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trying to think operation trojan horse

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the only things that i can compare to

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what i'm experiencing has nothing to do

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with their craft of any kind so

361
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it's tough for me to be here because i

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have nothing to gain from this

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people think

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well people already think i'm a crazy

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ass veteran right so only to lose but

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the reason i decided to was

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the toughest part for me was if science

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isn't taking this seriously

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medical science isn't taking this

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seriously

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what about people who need that medical

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science who are dealing with this

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subject right how do you tell what's

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real or not we've been signing people

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off as crazy for so long and i know i'm

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not crazy that's the reason i started

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carrying

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literally a camera everywhere i went

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right

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and

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i hate bullies i'm i'm just i think it's

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time that people start paying attention

383
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there's a lot more going on than

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technology

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i mean i can't begin to say what it is

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because uh

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i let the smart people figure that out i

388
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just say that all i do is i pay

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attention

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and for me for a long time i thought to

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myself

392
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this is this craziest part is i just

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thought they were everywhere and a bunch

394
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of people weren't no one was paying

395
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attention i assumed because i don't i

396
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didn't do social media i didn't know

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what was going on

398
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the intensity got so much

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that uh

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as a december 17th i don't record or

401
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look up right i know that they're always

402
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there last time i last two times i

403
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looked up they were there so it's like

404
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what's the point but who do i tell that

405
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i can't tell a doctor that and people

406
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say they tell their doctors i've had an

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experience where i've told a doctor and

408
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that what do they do you should get a

409
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psyche out before i see you again

410
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so it's like all right so a crazy person

411
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also knows

412
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i mean a person who's not crazy i should

413
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say knows when and when not to speak of

414
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things and i'm not saying to speak about

415
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these things what i'm saying is

416
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you need to gauge your audience right

417
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now

418
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medical science it's not what you think

419
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people aren't people will use this

420
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against you

421
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we need a way to report i know we got

422
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mufon and i'm thankful to all these

423
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different ones but we need

424
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i guess a better system i'm going to ufo

425
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twitter to figure out what the hell's

426
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going on in your life is not exactly

427
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what i would say especially lately you

428
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know

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shout out to lou and everybody else it's

430
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just

431
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i have a difficult time with uh

432
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negativity i've lived in some [\h__\h] i've

433
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survived some [\h__\h] right so yeah it kind

434
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of blows my mind that this is an

435
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experience so many people have had and

436
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are having

437
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and there's no real way to gauge the

438
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reality of that experience no real way

439
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to get data because no one's trying and

440
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everyone's scared right

441
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so it's like

442
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i'll step up [\h__\h] no one could think any

443
00:16:02,870 --> 00:16:01,519
worse of me than what i did in my life

444
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already right

445
00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:03,839
yeah

446
00:16:09,509 --> 00:16:07,680
hear what you're saying with twitter is

447
00:16:11,749 --> 00:16:09,519
especially if new people come along and

448
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they see the negativity i i completely

449
00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:13,920
get it and especially people being

450
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negative to maybe the people that have a

451
00:16:18,629 --> 00:16:17,440
bigger face on this kind of situation

452
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like a lou

453
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or sean cale or or other people you know

454
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it's

455
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you know and i i kind of came into this

456
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somewhat the same as as you did to be

457
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quite honest with you like i've had my

458
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experience

459
00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:33,600
and when i did like

460
00:16:37,749 --> 00:16:34,320
the

461
00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:37,759
deeper into ufo twitter i went because

462
00:16:40,629 --> 00:16:39,440
you know for better for worse that's

463
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that's where

464
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you know information flows uh at a kind

465
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of a rapid pace and you know when i got

466
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into it it wasn't the negativity wasn't

467
00:16:53,269 --> 00:16:51,680
so big of an issue at that point as as

468
00:16:55,350 --> 00:16:53,279
it is now but

469
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um but it did help a little bit what

470
00:16:59,749 --> 00:16:58,000
what really helped you know realizing i

471
00:17:01,509 --> 00:16:59,759
wasn't crazy was the documents and all

472
00:17:02,949 --> 00:17:01,519
that kind of stuff but yeah and i

473
00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:02,959
actually appreciate you on that all the

474
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stuff you post that actually gave me a

475
00:17:08,230 --> 00:17:05,760
little bit of peace that's what ufo

476
00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:08,240
twitter ted katie all these people from

477
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there

478
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as shitty as it is man i wouldn't know

479
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what was going on i i don't know if i

480
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would have made it through this it was

481
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intense i was dealing with other stuff

482
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on top of it so it's like what is going

483
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on

484
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yeah that's interesting so so was that

485
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asking this question yeah go ahead can i

486
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ask you a question uh yeah turn the

487
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table then go ahead yeah one of the

488
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things that i i really haven't think

489
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about i see a lot of people talk about

490
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ce5

491
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um they're worried about negativity

492
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positivity of nhi

493
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you know whatever it is and i'm aware

494
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that we don't know and i'm not saying

495
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mine's negative or positive but what

496
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bothers me is the implications right

497
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so if i can go anywhere

498
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i can see and point out and record these

499
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things

500
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why

501
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how are they following me

502
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the term experience bothers me because

503
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it means i don't have control

504
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they're under control and let me

505
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experience their whatever it is right so

506
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i'd like to go with

507
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videographer of uaps

508
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uh it's a it's hard for someone

509
00:18:12,789 --> 00:18:11,760
who has ptsd uh

510
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they have this

511
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it's not even i can't even describe it

512
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it's almost like uh your spidey tingle

513
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but it's with crap right you know

514
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whenever you just extra secure about

515
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everything checking everything all the

516
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time and then you add that on top

517
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and it's like

518
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so

519
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it could be a lot

520
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and

521
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i see a lot of people talking about

522
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communicating and i'm not saying it's

523
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negative or positive but i'm saying we

524
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don't know what it is

525
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they're going all over hanford with you

526
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know impunity

527
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i can tell you that right now so

528
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no one seems concerned kind of bothers

529
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me a little bit

530
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what do you think about negative or

531
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positives the questions on that oh the

532
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negative or positive i you know the the

533
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one thing that that comes to mind for me

534
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is if there's one if there's one thing

535
00:19:01,669 --> 00:18:59,679
that's here i mean what are the chances

536
00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:01,679
that it's just one thing

537
00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:04,720
and instead of uh multiple entities or

538
00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:06,720
multiple different scenarios

539
00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:08,880
maybe that bring positive and negative

540
00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:11,840
and if something is that advanced that

541
00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:14,160
it can be here or you know be seen when

542
00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:16,480
it wants or disappear when it wants or

543
00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:18,400
whatever what you know what are the

544
00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:20,880
chances that it would be as easy as

545
00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:23,200
being positive or negative only you know

546
00:19:27,669 --> 00:19:25,520
without exactly a mix of the two or

547
00:19:30,630 --> 00:19:27,679
maybe even both or

548
00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:30,640
you know as people were multifaceted you

549
00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:32,400
could have a good person

550
00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:35,360
who does one bad thing in their life or

551
00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:38,320
you could have a totally bad person or

552
00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:40,880
you know like there's so much variation

553
00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:42,720
to us as a human species and

554
00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:44,640
individually that makes us all

555
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uh unique

556
00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:48,720
you know is is that we're all

557
00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:51,200
different from one another you know in

558
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in some way shape or form so i know

559
00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:55,360
maybe you shouldn't relate humans to

560
00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:58,000
these things but i think

561
00:20:01,190 --> 00:19:58,960
you know

562
00:20:03,510 --> 00:20:01,200
and i'm not saying it's like us as much

563
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as i'm saying like the possibilities

564
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have to be

565
00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:06,640
um that

566
00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:09,280
much more varied almost

567
00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:10,320
you know

568
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,789
yeah that's hard to say

569
00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:16,799
it's hard to say because i've had both

570
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:19,600
with with these things so yeah i agree i

571
00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:20,799
don't know if it's necessarily negative

572
00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:22,960
or positive uh and that's why i'm stuck

573
00:20:26,950 --> 00:20:25,200
on but in my head

574
00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:26,960
i know people talk about

575
00:20:30,390 --> 00:20:28,400
how to communicate and how they would

576
00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:30,400
communicate at and i and i think to

577
00:20:33,590 --> 00:20:31,679
myself they wouldn't need anything but

578
00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:33,600
our brain i mean if there's far enough

579
00:20:38,149 --> 00:20:36,080
advances hiding from us right before us

580
00:20:41,029 --> 00:20:38,159
uh why not shoot a little whatever at

581
00:20:42,789 --> 00:20:41,039
our brain and get us to see do whatever

582
00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:42,799
manipulation

583
00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:44,640
yeah 100 i feel like i've been being

584
00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:46,640
manipulated and

585
00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:48,720
not into a way that sounds hokey and

586
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:51,600
crazy sometimes i would ask myself and

587
00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:53,679
i'm not a religious person right

588
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:55,679
um i almost feel like tests are thrown

589
00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:58,000
in front of me way too much [\h__\h] right

590
00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:00,240
i'm excuse my language youtube's no

591
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:02,400
that's way too much stuff right

592
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:04,960
and then here i am dealing with them but

593
00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:07,200
i kept getting stronger and that i don't

594
00:21:11,590 --> 00:21:09,679
know if that's me it's a situation and

595
00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:11,600
then the amount of stuff which you would

596
00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:12,799
ask the question earlier if there's

597
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:14,880
anything that i saw from it i don't know

598
00:21:19,110 --> 00:21:17,120
if that opened my eyes because there's

599
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:19,120
things that i haven't seen before so i

600
00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:21,280
just paid attention to everything

601
00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:24,559
and i'm not relating anything but

602
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:26,400
i love the mountains now and i've always

603
00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:28,240
been a city boy the very first time i

604
00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:29,440
went into the mountains was two years

605
00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:31,919
ago the first time i went i recorded

606
00:21:35,029 --> 00:21:33,120
a uap

607
00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:35,039
first time i went i also started

608
00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:36,720
collecting

609
00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:38,159
uh rocks

610
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:40,799
okay like ocd type collecting i couldn't

611
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:43,120
figure out why i knew it was something i

612
00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:45,440
left that spot went to another spot same

613
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:46,720
thing this happened three times three

614
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:48,559
different spots only three times i've

615
00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:51,360
got boxes i've got 900 pounds of these

616
00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:53,840
things and i'm pretty sure

617
00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:55,600
i now know what it is

618
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:57,679
i went all crazy trying to figure it out

619
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:59,600
uh platinum's the son of a gun right i'm

620
00:22:02,470 --> 00:22:01,280
pretty sure it's platinum kimberlite all

621
00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:02,480
these things that shouldn't exist up

622
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:03,440
there

623
00:22:05,830 --> 00:22:04,400
um

624
00:22:07,029 --> 00:22:05,840
but then again

625
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,039
i don't know what to do with them i'm

626
00:22:11,110 --> 00:22:09,360
not i i'm a prospector now but

627
00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:11,120
platinum's not like gold you've got to

628
00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:12,880
have chemicals and all this stuff and

629
00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:15,120
it's like why man give me gold dude

630
00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:16,960
what's up you know

631
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:19,200
and again this brings me back to after

632
00:22:24,830 --> 00:22:21,840
the fact i run across a speech kevin day

633
00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:24,840
gives and i'm like oh my gosh someone

634
00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:27,120
else they talked about that

635
00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:28,960
and then another time i talked about in

636
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:31,840
colorado i saw there's cases in colorado

637
00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:33,440
that the old prospectors say mark that

638
00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:35,200
spot wherever you see one there's gold

639
00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:36,320
right there

640
00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:37,840
right this is me coming after the fact

641
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:40,640
like oh man i know that and it's gotten

642
00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:43,120
so insane that i've got i have to ask

643
00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:45,520
myself this can't be real i live in a

644
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:46,400
city

645
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:48,159
and i have to stop myself from grabbing

646
00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:50,480
rocks right

647
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,039
200 yards away i find chunk of gold

648
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:55,200
right i'm like what the hell

649
00:22:58,630 --> 00:22:56,720
is going maybe i'm just super good at

650
00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:58,640
this and i never knew it and i have no

651
00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:00,400
reason to lie or [\h__\h] it i still got

652
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:01,520
these rocks sitting in here i had to

653
00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:03,520
stop doing it because it was such an i

654
00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:05,200
don't know much about it i had to learn

655
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:08,559
everything right and i don't understand

656
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:09,840
how

657
00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:12,000
i can sit here now and say well that

658
00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:14,080
shit's all just crazy

659
00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:16,240
right but i can also sit here now and

660
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:17,679
say

661
00:23:21,669 --> 00:23:19,919
this that doesn't make any sense none of

662
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,679
it everywhere i've went

663
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:23,039
and it just feels like i'm being pulled

664
00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:25,360
along right

665
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:26,799
yeah and i have to kind of be careful

666
00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:27,919
about saying that i'm not saying

667
00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:30,240
anything in its way it gives me back to

668
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:31,760
the whole uh

669
00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:33,919
manipulation

670
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:36,080
uh jacques valet talks about uh control

671
00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:37,679
system

672
00:23:43,510 --> 00:23:41,440
they know what buttons to push when to

673
00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:43,520
get me to do what to get this out of me

674
00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:44,240
and

675
00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:48,080
so this is just what i feel at times

676
00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:49,840
because sure

677
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:51,600
either

678
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:55,279
when

679
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:57,360
my the intensity or let's say i'm going

680
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:58,480
through it

681
00:24:02,710 --> 00:23:59,760
the amount of trauma i've lived through

682
00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:02,720
my life abuse war addiction homelessness

683
00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:04,159
all these things i don't know if that

684
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:06,480
makes me a giant antenna

685
00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:09,600
right and it almost seems like it

686
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:12,240
at times or

687
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:13,600
if

688
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:15,679
i just happen to be awake and paying

689
00:24:19,029 --> 00:24:17,120
attention because i'm a service

690
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:19,039
connected vet i got lots of time some

691
00:24:22,630 --> 00:24:20,720
time on my hands you know to do these

692
00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:22,640
things so

693
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:24,159
i stumbled for a bit because i didn't

694
00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:26,159
know people like you or twitter or

695
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:27,440
whatever existed i didn't know what a

696
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:28,799
uap was

697
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:29,840
until

698
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:31,440
2021

699
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:33,279
so that's about when i the first book i

700
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:34,559
read was skin rocker ranch it finally

701
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:35,760
gave me a little piece because i wasn't

702
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:37,279
the only one experiencing crazy because

703
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:40,080
i've never seen a craft mainly orbish

704
00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:41,840
you know things like that yeah some of

705
00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:44,880
the videos that i haven't sent you

706
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:47,360
i've got like 60 70 videos i don't go

707
00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:48,720
back and look through them because they

708
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:50,159
always end up having one thing or the

709
00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:52,640
other some of them get to be

710
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:54,159
you you look at an orb and you enhance

711
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,600
it and there's two other things in a

712
00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:57,600
triangle formation it's like what the

713
00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:01,200
heck triangle craft right um i've had

714
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:03,039
the first experience that i had that

715
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:04,559
caused me

716
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:06,000
this is gonna be going down a little bit

717
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:07,440
of a wood train but caused me to start

718
00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:09,520
recording was i used to sit and sit

719
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:11,840
outside pandemic started

720
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:14,080
i was just leaving uh my last mental

721
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:15,840
health treatment like maybe six months

722
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:17,840
prior and i sit outside all day just

723
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:19,919
look at the stars i loved it right i

724
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:21,760
started seeing

725
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:23,440
not flashing lights

726
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:25,120
what it was clearly

727
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:26,960
was because i could see it was just

728
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:29,120
quick enough it'd be a

729
00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:31,520
almost uh i'd say

730
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:33,039
if it's a lighthouse you could not see

731
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:34,880
from the side laser whatever you want to

732
00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:37,279
call it right but i could see it one eye

733
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:39,279
to the other it was never bam it was

734
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:41,039
always one eye to the other

735
00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:42,480
and i can't look you know and that's how

736
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:44,720
i find it so i decided to record that

737
00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:45,600
stuff

738
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:47,440
um that's when i started seeing and

739
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:49,360
recording way more things but the

740
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:51,600
problem with what i'm seeing is

741
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:54,640
it doesn't fit into a neat little box

742
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:56,640
yeah well why would it fit into a neat

743
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:58,240
little box you know if it fed into a

744
00:26:01,909 --> 00:25:59,840
neat little box we wouldn't be here

745
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:01,919
still trying to figure this out you know

746
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:04,799
we wouldn't have scientists aviators

747
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:07,200
um you name it having these types of

748
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:10,000
experiences with no answers really you

749
00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:10,960
know

750
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:12,720
avi loeb wouldn't be setting up this

751
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:14,960
huge project galileo to figure this out

752
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:16,559
because it already would be figured out

753
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:18,640
because it's in a new little box as

754
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:20,640
humans we want to put everything in a

755
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:22,720
neat little box because that gives us a

756
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:25,840
sense of control but when we can't do

757
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:26,880
that

758
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:29,840
things become seemingly uncontrollable

759
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:31,679
and that's kind of what drives a lot of

760
00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:34,000
us mad right that's what drives fear

761
00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:35,840
with ukraine and russia we don't know

762
00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:37,600
who's gonna do what when the nuke's

763
00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:39,120
going to come up when this is going to

764
00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:42,400
go or that and because of that we have

765
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:45,360
fear and that doesn't fit into a little

766
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:47,840
box you know so sometimes i think that

767
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:50,720
these situations at least the one i had

768
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:53,760
i can say that sometimes i feel like the

769
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:56,960
point of it was for me to think outside

770
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:59,279
of the box and relinquish a little

771
00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:01,360
control and realize

772
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:03,360
that i don't have to have control of

773
00:27:08,789 --> 00:27:05,679
everything and i will still be okay with

774
00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:08,799
the resources i have at being the human

775
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,480
i am you know

776
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:12,240
um that's a good point that's exactly

777
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:13,840
yeah one of the things that saved my

778
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:15,760
life

779
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:17,360
i could do it myself with the resources

780
00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:20,080
i have figure this out yeah and you know

781
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:22,159
sometimes you know you i hear you talked

782
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:24,640
about uh manipulation somebody in the

783
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:27,520
chat elena brought this up do you think

784
00:27:32,830 --> 00:27:29,840
is do you think there's any

785
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:32,840
you know synchronicity involved versus

786
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:34,720
manipulation you know

787
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:36,880
you had to say that word i just learned

788
00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:37,600
that

789
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:40,880
she did elena did yeah elena thank you

790
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:43,200
um yeah i like questions it actually i

791
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:44,559
told somebody on twitter this the other

792
00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:45,840
day

793
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:47,600
i'm way too old i've lived through way

794
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,520
too much crap to be set in my ways i

795
00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:51,360
don't know anything and i love questions

796
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:52,960
because it helps me think think outside

797
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:54,799
the box and i learn a lot from them

798
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:02,549
at times i could i've actually said

799
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:04,399
it's almost so thick

800
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:05,760
once you notice it you learn it you

801
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:07,360
understand high strangers whatever you

802
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:08,720
want to call it that you choke on it

803
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:12,080
right you can look back and see it it's

804
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:13,200
really the only way you can see that

805
00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:14,799
synchronicity but it's

806
00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:16,720
most people go through life without and

807
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:18,799
it's funny that that synchronicity often

808
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:21,520
comes with uap right

809
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:23,520
i can look at where i'm at now and that

810
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,600
whole feel like i'm being dragged i can

811
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:27,360
kind of see right

812
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:29,600
that i can look now at the

813
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:30,960
different things i've been doing the

814
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:32,240
last two years seeing whatever

815
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:33,520
experience and

816
00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:35,679
where i'm at now and like holy crap how

817
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:38,480
did this even happen

818
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:39,919
um

819
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:42,880
there's stuff that i don't want to get

820
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:45,360
into because it's so absolutely woo i

821
00:28:48,789 --> 00:28:46,799
don't want to take away from my master

822
00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:48,799
chair

823
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,559
you do what you're comfortable with man

824
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:52,240
yeah um

825
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:54,320
i'm already a crazy ass combat man so i

826
00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:56,720
don't need much more of that but i can

827
00:29:01,830 --> 00:28:59,520
tell you if i could ask a question to

828
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:01,840
other people i know we talk about sia

829
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:04,000
abilities local downloads things like

830
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:05,120
these right

831
00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:06,960
what if you've got local downloads what

832
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:08,399
if you got local downloads to stuff you

833
00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:10,000
didn't want

834
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:11,360
what if you had local downloads to

835
00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:12,880
things you didn't want and you had to

836
00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:15,039
tell someone else or prove it or explain

837
00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:16,960
it how

838
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:19,919
you can't what's that make you seem like

839
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:22,880
maybe seem like crazy [\h__\h]

840
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:25,200
well first of all you don't seem crazy

841
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:26,480
yeah i think you're doing great with

842
00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:28,080
this stuff especially on top of

843
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,679
everything else you've you've had to

844
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:31,440
deal with in your life and then throw

845
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:33,200
this on top i think you're doing a great

846
00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:35,840
job and we talked on the phone uh you

847
00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:38,480
know privately before and

848
00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:42,080
um and i'll stick to this every time i i

849
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:44,080
go through stuff myself or anyone else

850
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:45,840
talks to me about it's like

851
00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:49,360
i think the main goal here is to also

852
00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:52,159
um you know if possible not right not

853
00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:53,360
relinquish

854
00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:56,480
um you know uh your grounding to this

855
00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:58,799
thing maybe be able to stay grounded and

856
00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:01,679
have a a sense of choice involved with

857
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:04,320
it you know like no today i'm not gonna

858
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:07,120
go do this you know i'm gonna do this

859
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:09,120
and you know as far as you're concerned

860
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:11,279
uap you can shove it because i'm doing

861
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:13,600
this today

862
00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:15,360
or whatever whatever it is whatever it

863
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:16,960
is i'm gonna tell you this uh i think it

864
00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:19,520
was sean cahill just i was just talking

865
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:21,039
about the grounding especially the

866
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:23,200
subject right

867
00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:24,799
and but how you know and you made a

868
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:26,240
point of grounding grounding yourself in

869
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:28,240
life whatever it is but especially when

870
00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:29,520
let's say you're living life and you're

871
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:30,720
dealing with this subject how do you

872
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:31,760
ground yourself when there's no one

873
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:33,520
really to ground yourself

874
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:35,440
maybe you have ufo twitter and some of

875
00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:36,640
these people

876
00:30:41,029 --> 00:30:38,000
um

877
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:41,039
it's it's the weirdest thing to talk

878
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:43,600
about things you see

879
00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:46,320
and record and to see a scientist or a

880
00:30:49,830 --> 00:30:48,080
doctor say not even give a [\h__\h] what you

881
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:49,840
have on film

882
00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:51,039
automatically

883
00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:52,799
ask somebody else do you see these

884
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:54,159
things too

885
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:55,440
it doesn't matter what evidence you what

886
00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:57,039
you put before them they have it in

887
00:31:01,029 --> 00:30:58,640
their head right

888
00:31:02,389 --> 00:31:01,039
so where do you go to ground and that's

889
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:02,399
the thing that's important it kind of

890
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:03,519
worries me a little bit because it's

891
00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:06,000
like if i didn't have i'm gonna lie if i

892
00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:07,679
didn't have ted rowe i'd probably lost

893
00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:10,320
my ass ted rowe actually you may not

894
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:12,799
know it he saved me from some it was the

895
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,000
intensity of which i was going through

896
00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:15,840
this i i didn't understand because most

897
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:17,840
people are just kind of like oh hey i

898
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:20,159
see e5 let's and i'm not taking away

899
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:21,120
from that

900
00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:22,960
i didn't ask for anything all i wanted

901
00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:24,240
was just to

902
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:26,799
be normal which is very hard to do when

903
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:28,799
you're pointing out this stuff right

904
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:30,320
ain't nobody gonna be like oh that's the

905
00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:32,480
cool normal guy over there

906
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:34,240
yeah he's always got his camera in this

907
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:36,480
guy yeah no instead i just get avoided

908
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:38,720
so i don't discuss this with anyone else

909
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:40,159
i don't talk about my family i don't

910
00:31:44,830 --> 00:31:42,480
even point look up or whatever unless

911
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:44,840
you know it's specific but it was

912
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:47,440
important for me to change soon oh it

913
00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:48,799
will and that's one of the reasons i

914
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:50,640
want to come here more people need to i

915
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:52,399
guess be able to be open about it

916
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:54,399
without repercussions but i also often

917
00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:55,840
worry and wonder about people who've had

918
00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:57,440
a mental health history

919
00:32:01,269 --> 00:31:58,799
because it doesn't take much to get them

920
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:01,279
put right back in if you see imagine you

921
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:03,519
come out of some kind of a mental health

922
00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:05,120
right and this is real for you you're

923
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:07,360
seeing this stuff and you go to anyone

924
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:08,799
and you're basically punished for it

925
00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:10,320
whoop

926
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:12,320
yeah we need to do better man we need to

927
00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:13,679
do way better

928
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:15,440
i think we're getting there slowly but

929
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:17,200
surely yeah we are because people like

930
00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:19,200
you gary nolan all these other people

931
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,480
that's very important that they they

932
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:22,320
keep doing what they're doing

933
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:23,840
and people are bringing up great points

934
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,080
in the chat here like what is normal you

935
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:28,399
know and that's one of the things that i

936
00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:29,120
mean

937
00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:30,880
that i think isn't

938
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:33,519
important to to think about like what is

939
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:36,080
what is normal and

940
00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:38,399
that puts us right back to talking about

941
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:40,880
fitting in a neat little box like why is

942
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:43,760
that the right way to be you know i've

943
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:46,240
never been normal you know i've always

944
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:47,039
been

945
00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:49,279
uh the outsider guy the black sheep or

946
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:50,799
whatever you want to call it you know

947
00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:51,760
and it

948
00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:54,399
comes with a diff a more difficult life

949
00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:56,799
because you don't have as many people to

950
00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:00,159
rely on as people who are normal so to

951
00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:01,840
speak you know but

952
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:04,559
um i agree i i'd rather be independent

953
00:33:08,149 --> 00:33:06,799
i'd rather be my own person you know let

954
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:08,159
me ask you this but about your

955
00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:09,840
experiences and everything in the

956
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:11,760
synchronicities like

957
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:13,919
how was your

958
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:19,120
not your not yourself but the world

959
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:21,679
changed since you know experiencing

960
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:23,519
stuff like this like

961
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:26,080
maybe possibilities or what's out there

962
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:27,679
what isn't

963
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:29,679
uh i hate to keep referring back to ufo

964
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:30,960
twitter but

965
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:33,120
uh brandon frugal

966
00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:35,600
uh tweeted when i say my limit i have

967
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:36,799
limited experience talking to people

968
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:39,120
twitter is it if i'm not you twitter

969
00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:40,720
that's about all i've talked to in years

970
00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:44,399
but you posted something about curiosity

971
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:45,919
and how you know

972
00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:47,200
that is how you live and that is

973
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:48,880
literally how i live my life i no longer

974
00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:51,760
take what someone gives me

975
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:53,200
yes i know there's limits to that such

976
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:55,039
as you know you're not a scientist and

977
00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:56,799
all these other things

978
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:01,360
i question i'm curious i i also know

979
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:04,000
that we don't know at times i feel like

980
00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:05,760
there's a crack in reality that we just

981
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:07,840
don't quite understand

982
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:09,599
it's all here

983
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:12,000
you know it's almost like some of us

984
00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:14,159
see this little crack

985
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:15,440
um

986
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:18,480
and and it's so odd for me especially

987
00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:21,520
scientists right so odd for me that most

988
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:23,040
laymen don't give a crap just like you

989
00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:24,320
could be like hey look at that and

990
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:26,960
they're like okay walk off but for

991
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:29,040
scientists for scientists have the same

992
00:34:34,069 --> 00:34:32,000
dogma or a similar dogma as

993
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:34,079
religion

994
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:36,000
we're going to always be stuck here

995
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:37,520
scientists right now

996
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:40,000
are only looking for the known unknowns

997
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:41,280
that they want right the things that

998
00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:42,720
they know that they're looking for that

999
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:44,240
they don't know

1000
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:46,240
wow imagine the progress we'll get once

1001
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:47,599
they start looking for stuff that we

1002
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:49,040
have zero clue about and they start

1003
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:51,119
accepting there's things that we may not

1004
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:53,119
understand consciousness all these

1005
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:54,800
things instead we're still going after

1006
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:56,879
the same things we don't know

1007
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:58,640
and meanwhile

1008
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:00,320
people who aren't scientists are like

1009
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:02,640
what the hell you guys doing

1010
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:04,160
right over here

1011
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:06,000
you know and it kind of blows my mind to

1012
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:07,760
live in a world where people just

1013
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:09,760
i guess kind of turning a blind eye to

1014
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:11,760
what's going on around them

1015
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:12,560
yeah

1016
00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:16,480
bit before too sometimes i just feel

1017
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:18,400
like people won't really care unless it

1018
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:20,560
affects them personally like we're

1019
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:22,000
talking about you

1020
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:24,800
uh in your experiences and the effect

1021
00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:26,720
that they had on you obviously they've

1022
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:28,720
had an effect on you and

1023
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:30,720
i can't only say so much from being from

1024
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:32,960
the outside but it seems almost positive

1025
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:36,720
because it's keeping you um it's keeping

1026
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:38,640
you on a good path without knowing you

1027
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:39,920
more than i do

1028
00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:42,240
you know it seems that like that at

1029
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:44,960
least for me it keeps me open

1030
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:46,800
you know let me ask you this question

1031
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:48,320
since you said that

1032
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:49,680
you take someone like me who's lived

1033
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:51,200
through a bunch of crap

1034
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:52,480
didn't really have much to look forward

1035
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:54,160
to all the questions you know it doesn't

1036
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:57,040
matter what you take naa bible all the

1037
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:59,119
answers are always in books

1038
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:00,560
then you take that person whose whole

1039
00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:02,800
life said you've been telling it's all

1040
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:05,119
right here everything about life and

1041
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,640
then you say

1042
00:36:09,510 --> 00:36:08,640
i'm just kidding check this out it's all

1043
00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:09,520
different

1044
00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:12,079
that saved my ass man once i realized i

1045
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:14,079
got past the oh my world changing what

1046
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:15,760
is going on i was like

1047
00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:18,000
oh this could be fun we got a lot to

1048
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:19,839
learn but i'm just so

1049
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:21,359
blown away exactly

1050
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:22,960
you said it right there

1051
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:24,480
yeah

1052
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:26,560
exactly people aren't excited to learn

1053
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:28,240
about this stuff to see to

1054
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:29,680
there's no excitement in the fact that

1055
00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:32,320
okay maybe we don't know it all instead

1056
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:33,359
it's

1057
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:35,839
uh constant put downs oh you're crazy

1058
00:36:39,670 --> 00:36:37,680
and all this other type of stuff and

1059
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:39,680
it's like yeah yeah i could do without

1060
00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:40,480
that

1061
00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:43,599
just like galileo himself like uh you

1062
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:45,359
know exactly that they thought that dude

1063
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:46,720
was crazy

1064
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:49,200
you know turns out he wasn't so much and

1065
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:51,280
that's you know if you think about our

1066
00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:55,280
tech and and when we've really gotten um

1067
00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:57,040
advanced with this stuff was the past

1068
00:37:02,150 --> 00:36:59,440
hundred years or something 150 years

1069
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:02,160
in the time span of all of mankind or

1070
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:04,560
even the world's history and here we are

1071
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:06,839
this fast doing this

1072
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:10,240
like anything's possible man you know

1073
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:11,920
think of what we'll be

1074
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:13,680
we'll be able to do in

1075
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:15,920
you know let's just say a hundred years

1076
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:19,680
but even go farther 500 or a thousand

1077
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:21,040
you know what are we going to be able to

1078
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:22,960
accomplish what new discoveries are

1079
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,560
going to come about that exciting you

1080
00:37:29,510 --> 00:37:26,320
can't even imagine it's like scientists

1081
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:29,520
but it doesn't it's like uh well okay

1082
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:30,960
i've you can't

1083
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:32,480
paint them with a broad brush right

1084
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:34,079
maybe a lot of them are like that but

1085
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:35,599
there's some that aren't like that you

1086
00:37:40,390 --> 00:37:38,400
know like avila for instance yeah yeah

1087
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:40,400
you're right it's the same way you do

1088
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:42,320
all about scientists yeah

1089
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:44,480
yeah i know and it's just i guess it's

1090
00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:46,079
hard for me because it'd be like anyone

1091
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:47,359
else doing their job to be like you're

1092
00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:49,040
not doing your job

1093
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:52,079
yeah totally how you getting paid

1094
00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:53,839
because it goes back to not being in

1095
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:55,599
control again right well if i'm looking

1096
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:57,920
for something unknown like how do i even

1097
00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:59,920
do that how do i do this career fields

1098
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:01,200
are going to be lost

1099
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:05,359
just an example stream fairies you know

1100
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:06,240
all these different things are going to

1101
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:07,839
happen no one wants to face that right

1102
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:09,920
no one wants their life to be shaking

1103
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:11,760
the poop and have to start from scratch

1104
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:13,280
which is where i was

1105
00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:14,560
you know

1106
00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:16,800
yeah and i mean we don't even really

1107
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:18,400
fully understand gravity what's going to

1108
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:20,320
happen when we get that understanding

1109
00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:21,359
you know

1110
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:23,119
what's going to be possible then you

1111
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:24,480
know

1112
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:26,160
well one of the things that

1113
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:28,000
about gravity i mean like i said i'm an

1114
00:38:31,829 --> 00:38:30,400
aircraft guy

1115
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:31,839
when i was talking about earlier i kept

1116
00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:33,280
seeing all these lights and things like

1117
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:35,040
that to see things for example one of

1118
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:36,480
the first experiences that i saw and i

1119
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:38,079
didn't get to record

1120
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:39,520
the only way i could explain it is look

1121
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:41,440
like someone lit a match in the sky

1122
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:42,960
i watched it

1123
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:44,720
go up and it's just and it looks like a

1124
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:47,839
tadpole moving up back and forth

1125
00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:49,839
i can point out and this is the thing i

1126
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:51,119
see the most

1127
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:54,400
there's something that has absolutely no

1128
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:57,280
um it's not putting light out

1129
00:38:59,750 --> 00:38:58,400
per se

1130
00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,760
but i can see it

1131
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:01,440
and this is that blob thing i always see

1132
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:03,119
i know it is because it it's been above

1133
00:39:05,109 --> 00:39:04,240
my head it's like 500 feet in the

1134
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:05,119
mountains

1135
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:06,320
and i swear to you it moves like a

1136
00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:08,560
tadpole back and forth and i've got a

1137
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:10,079
side of my son he calls it the dancing

1138
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:11,599
stars is what he calls them they'll be

1139
00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:12,880
going around each other like doing this

1140
00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:14,560
stuff and they're you they have no light

1141
00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:16,880
source they're either way up or they're

1142
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:18,160
little bitty and they're a lot closer

1143
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:19,520
which is what i'm starting to think

1144
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:21,280
because most of my experiences what

1145
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:23,040
scares me is

1146
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:24,160
i've had one that i thought i was

1147
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:25,760
recording serious

1148
00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:26,880
the star

1149
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:29,200
and it kept looking like it was moving

1150
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:31,200
and at one point it's in front of some

1151
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:33,040
tree branches that are 60 feet from me

1152
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:34,320
right

1153
00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:36,000
i think i said the pulsating whatever it

1154
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:38,079
was to you right and i got 10 minutes of

1155
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:39,440
it and it's just moving across and i

1156
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:41,359
can't figure out most of mine are pretty

1157
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:42,960
close-up stuff and implications that

1158
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:44,240
kind of scare me a little bit because

1159
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:45,440
it's like oh

1160
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:47,359
wait a second here

1161
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:49,280
you know this is kind of crazy and i

1162
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:50,960
also know drones i ever i know everybody

1163
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:52,400
loves their fast drones they're first

1164
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:54,400
person and i know all of these kids

1165
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:56,640
around me love these so seeing something

1166
00:40:03,829 --> 00:39:59,599
with zero lights that yeah i'm always

1167
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,510
it's like i'm gonna look up oh there it

1168
00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:07,200
is it's not like i'm gonna stare at the

1169
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:09,680
sky for a while and find it interesting

1170
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,640
yeah

1171
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:12,240
never has it been like that december

1172
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:14,560
17th of this year i had an experience it

1173
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:17,119
scared the crap out of me and i've seen

1174
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:18,640
some [\h__\h] actually that scared me more

1175
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:20,560
than anything in my life so

1176
00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:21,760
i stopped looking up doing all this

1177
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:23,119
other stuff maybe at some point and

1178
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:25,200
discuss that uh when i seem like less of

1179
00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:27,280
a crazy person but

1180
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:29,040
three months went by you don't seem like

1181
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:30,640
a crazy person at all bro you're doing

1182
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:32,400
great i appreciate that three months

1183
00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:33,599
went by i went to the mountains

1184
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:35,440
specifically because i was like all

1185
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:36,240
right

1186
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:38,560
i'm gonna pick a day pick a time go out

1187
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:39,920
and see if it's exactly what i think

1188
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,359
like i just know

1189
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,960
i went outside on the third day i was in

1190
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:44,880
the mountains i'm a mountain boy now i

1191
00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:46,400
don't i god i can live there i don't

1192
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:47,680
need the internet that's another thing

1193
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,680
that's changed right yeah yeah i'm in

1194
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:51,599
more with nature

1195
00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:54,800
100 and then uh i go outside i'm sitting

1196
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:56,560
there maybe five minutes i'm setting my

1197
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:59,359
camera and stuff up

1198
00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:01,520
look up there it is

1199
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:03,200
and this is

1200
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:06,079
80 90 miles away from home

1201
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:07,760
look up first thing i see it's dancing

1202
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:08,960
across the sky i got a little slight

1203
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:10,240
crappy video of it because it's kind of

1204
00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:12,560
foggy and usually that's what they are

1205
00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:14,079
it's clearly a video of something but

1206
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:14,960
it's

1207
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:16,960
the thing that's frustrating

1208
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:18,400
yeah it's like why do i know when to

1209
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:20,240
look and where because it's not like oh

1210
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:21,599
where's it at where's it at and i'm able

1211
00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:22,880
to point it out

1212
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:24,400
and other people don't seem either

1213
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:27,119
interested or it and it's on it's like i

1214
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:28,240
don't know what's going on now there's a

1215
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:30,240
very real possibility

1216
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:32,240
someone hates me and

1217
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:34,960
stalking me but which sounds crazier

1218
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:37,839
that's what's not so that does

1219
00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:40,319
yeah exactly aliens would be less crazy

1220
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:43,119
or et nhi would be less crazy but when

1221
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:44,640
you record it everywhere you go and it's

1222
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:46,480
obviously an aircraft

1223
00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:48,560
it's like oh your options are limited so

1224
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:50,079
you got to be very careful who you talk

1225
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:52,160
to it about right yeah

1226
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:53,520
what mountain if you don't mind me

1227
00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:54,800
asking

1228
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:57,520
um i live in washington state so i

1229
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:00,480
usually go up uh snoqualmie up in those

1230
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:03,760
areas and that's where i i mean

1231
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:05,760
there's a lot of history in washington

1232
00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:08,640
state my friend see after the fact i

1233
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:10,640
knew none of this i'm seeing all this

1234
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:12,160
wondering what the hell is going on then

1235
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:14,160
i'm like oh okay

1236
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:15,440
so i go

1237
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:17,280
i go up in the mountains you know and

1238
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:19,040
now it's it's it's kind of fun for me to

1239
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:21,280
do to go up in the mountains and

1240
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:22,960
all these places that i go

1241
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:24,640
it doesn't matter where

1242
00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:27,680
i i always record or see and point out

1243
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:29,040
and it's kind of like

1244
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,359
okay they're there

1245
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:33,040
so so now

1246
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,040
i'm limited what i can do about it so we

1247
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:37,200
need other people to start thinking you

1248
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:38,240
know what i mean

1249
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:40,640
yeah right but what is there to even do

1250
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:43,280
about it understand it from a scientist

1251
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:45,040
scientist perspective but like in a

1252
00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:47,200
position like you're in or or i'm in

1253
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:50,079
like what can we really do about it

1254
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,880
i guess like i tend to think that a lot

1255
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:54,400
of this stuff is

1256
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:57,359
related to consciousness you know um i

1257
00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:59,440
think it is a hundred percent too but

1258
00:43:02,309 --> 00:43:01,119
why don't you explore that a bit i don't

1259
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:02,319
know

1260
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,920
and one of the ways that i think we

1261
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:06,240
could do that is a lot of people if they

1262
00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:08,079
see a craft great they record that's the

1263
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:10,079
stuff they're looking for lights orbs no

1264
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,760
one gets a crap

1265
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:13,280
i had a conversation the other day with

1266
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:15,280
somebody who were talking about what do

1267
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:17,359
the lights mean and what i mean by that

1268
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:18,560
is

1269
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:20,319
pay attention the rhythm

1270
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:22,720
as humans i understand whatever not a

1271
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:25,680
human we use lights for specific reasons

1272
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:27,760
right security uh all kinds of different

1273
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:29,200
reasons doesn't matter

1274
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:30,640
point is

1275
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:33,040
if this is an object or an nhi is

1276
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:34,720
invisible to us whenever it wants to be

1277
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:36,079
and all of a sudden it's showing us

1278
00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:38,319
things there's a reason

1279
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:41,119
none of us pay attention to it

1280
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:43,599
and that's kind of like uh why i mean

1281
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:45,280
rhythm i mean i saw someone i think they

1282
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:48,160
were using ai to be i think they used ai

1283
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:50,240
to tell that the beats of some of these

1284
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:51,760
lights weren't aircraft that's something

1285
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:53,680
new which is awesome which i find like

1286
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:55,520
finally right

1287
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:57,359
um

1288
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:59,440
as far as lights what blows my mind is

1289
00:44:01,589 --> 00:44:00,400
we know

1290
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:01,599
they have a rather

1291
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:03,280
regular rhythm and beat when we start

1292
00:44:06,309 --> 00:44:04,560
doing these and some of the stuff the

1293
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:06,319
reason i knew it wasn't what it was is

1294
00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:07,599
i'd see a

1295
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:09,920
that sweep across my eyes it disappeared

1296
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:11,200
for five minutes and i'd be looking for

1297
00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:12,720
it and there it was again another part

1298
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:14,480
of the sky

1299
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:17,920
and i'm pretty sure not positive i

1300
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:19,440
you know that whole they talk about that

1301
00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:20,400
being

1302
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:21,359
they

1303
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:24,960
something like that i think

1304
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:26,960
i have a video of that

1305
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:29,359
that's a video and i think right

1306
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,800
and then and if you slow it down

1307
00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:32,400
everything goes crazy there's a triangle

1308
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:34,560
light there's triangles almost that's

1309
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:36,160
the craziest part so i'm searching for

1310
00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:38,079
this craft that's spot doing that across

1311
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:39,599
my eyes in this video because i'm going

1312
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:41,200
to get you right

1313
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,880
and then i just found this because like

1314
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:44,400
i said i have no interest in going back

1315
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:46,079
and looking because that wasn't my thing

1316
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:48,000
at the time and i just found this and as

1317
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:49,520
i'm sweeping for it

1318
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:51,760
if you slow it down the whole camera

1319
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,040
goes nuts you see a triangle of lights

1320
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:57,599
camera goes nuts and then it's gone

1321
00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:59,520
and and i'm like what the heck you know

1322
00:45:02,829 --> 00:45:01,440
and it's it's little things like that

1323
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:02,839
and maybe

1324
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:05,200
there's there's all kinds of things it

1325
00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:07,520
could be maybe it's one of ours but i

1326
00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:09,200
have a hard time believing because i

1327
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:13,200
haven't seen it do like a craft

1328
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:14,800
but now that i'm starting to think maybe

1329
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:16,800
these orbs are attached to craft or

1330
00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:18,960
their tools these lights orbs whatever

1331
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:21,680
you want to call them are either tools

1332
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:22,560
or

1333
00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:24,160
a way of communicating i don't know if

1334
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:25,520
communicating is necessarily it i think

1335
00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:27,520
it's a tool and i know that they talk

1336
00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:28,319
about

1337
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:30,160
lights picking stuff off the ground like

1338
00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:32,079
it's doing samples you know things like

1339
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:33,359
that but

1340
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:36,160
i've seen firsthand

1341
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:37,440
whatever it was because i remember

1342
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:38,880
thinking what is this thing this

1343
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:40,560
lighthouse it's just sweep across my

1344
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:42,160
eyes really quick and i got that one

1345
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:44,000
video i think i said to you

1346
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:45,119
those red

1347
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:48,319
or amber orbs that uh i threw a video up

1348
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:50,880
on my youtube that to me my instinct

1349
00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:52,000
felt like

1350
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:54,160
um you know scoping like they were

1351
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:56,800
scoping something out or reconnaissance

1352
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:58,640
or looking at stuff or whatever and i

1353
00:46:02,550 --> 00:46:00,240
even got a feeling from one of them was

1354
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:02,560
that grumpy like they were grumpy that

1355
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:03,839
they were yeah

1356
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:05,680
i'm like what the hell am i doing here

1357
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:07,760
that's what kind of worries me

1358
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:09,280
what where's me and concerns me about

1359
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:10,960
all this is you get that okay you just

1360
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:13,040
said it's a nail on the head

1361
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:15,119
now me being a veteran

1362
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:16,400
that means

1363
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:17,920
they're checking us out either looking

1364
00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:19,920
for weaknesses this is in my head

1365
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:22,400
weaknesses uh strengths trying to figure

1366
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:23,440
out what we have you know they're

1367
00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:25,040
scoping us out which scares me and no

1368
00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:26,560
one seems to be concerned it could be

1369
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:31,349
this is the old veteran in me that's

1370
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:33,440
like i don't know what this is i don't

1371
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:36,079
like it right yeah yeah you gotta find a

1372
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:37,359
way to be okay with what you can't

1373
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:40,319
control yeah which i am finally but it

1374
00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:41,920
took me having people to tell you and

1375
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:43,680
there's not really a or are you going to

1376
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:47,680
go to a nhi recovery group

1377
00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:48,720
hey

1378
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:51,599
maybe a good maybe in a few years

1379
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:53,119
you know what

1380
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:55,280
that was my idea remember that

1381
00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:58,800
yeah well they and there are uh places

1382
00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:00,240
you can go you know like there's

1383
00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:01,520
something called the experiencer group

1384
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:03,520
like my co-host uh jay christopher king

1385
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:06,160
he's with me sometimes he uh runs that

1386
00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:08,000
and it's a website where experiencers

1387
00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:09,920
can go and just kind of talk shop and

1388
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:11,680
talk about their experiences and

1389
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:13,760
exchange notes and it's all everything's

1390
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:15,839
private you know um

1391
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:18,480
so and i've taken i've taken part in

1392
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:20,319
that it's really nice to

1393
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:21,599
be able to

1394
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,160
unload and talk about everything and all

1395
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:26,319
your thoughts related to it and not

1396
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:29,119
worry about what what someone's going to

1397
00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:30,720
say or think

1398
00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:32,160
you know because you're right there's so

1399
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,119
many

1400
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:35,280
like my main experience involved you

1401
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:37,680
know like i feel like it involves a

1402
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:39,200
dream premonition that came true that

1403
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:40,960
involved a family member i don't want to

1404
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:43,119
go and talk about this stuff constantly

1405
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:44,960
online because that involves other

1406
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:46,880
people you know and i don't want to do

1407
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:49,520
that so that's that was a great place to

1408
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:51,680
to go and just like

1409
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:53,599
say you know put your arms up say i

1410
00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:55,599
don't know but these are the things i

1411
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:57,040
think and these are the things that

1412
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:59,440
happen to me you know that in itself

1413
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:01,040
feels great you know

1414
00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:03,520
you may not leave any wiser for it

1415
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,559
or whatever but you are because you're

1416
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:08,079
lighter because you got it off of your

1417
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:10,720
chest you know and it's a great place i

1418
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:12,559
really and there's other places like

1419
00:48:17,349 --> 00:48:15,280
that that do it i mean you know and

1420
00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:17,359
obviously you check whatever out and

1421
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:19,359
figure out what's best for you but

1422
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,520
you know i i feel like that's

1423
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:24,240
you know that's a a useful thing because

1424
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:26,400
especially with this stuff now like

1425
00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:29,200
twitter and and stuff going to to

1426
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:31,280
congress and the government and all that

1427
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:33,119
there is a little bit of an effort to

1428
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:35,040
squash the experience or side of this

1429
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:37,040
for now because it'll weird people out

1430
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:39,119
you know and whatever i don't want to

1431
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:41,359
get in the politics of that i guess but

1432
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:42,800
in the end like

1433
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:44,880
we're all experiencers

1434
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,119
you know if you've seen even a story of

1435
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:49,760
this and you thought wow that's crazy

1436
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:51,839
that's an experience you just that

1437
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:54,079
affected you you know maybe in a small

1438
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:54,880
way

1439
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:57,119
whatever but it did you know you were

1440
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:58,720
talking about the politics of the whole

1441
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:00,880
thing one thing i would like to say is

1442
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:03,359
it's far easier for us as experiencers

1443
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:05,680
ufo twitter whatever you want to call it

1444
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:06,720
to

1445
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:11,040
may not all have the same this is a big

1446
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:12,800
old umbrella

1447
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:15,040
there's way more here than just

1448
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,880
technology you know

1449
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:18,400
and it seems that everyone's screaming

1450
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:20,240
at each other it's it's not really

1451
00:49:22,549 --> 00:49:21,440
helping

1452
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:22,559
right

1453
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:24,160
and it kind of hurts when i see people

1454
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:26,160
know and people are gonna like me for

1455
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,400
some of this susan go all these other

1456
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:30,480
people um brian bender a lot of these

1457
00:49:34,870 --> 00:49:32,000
guys people who do their job that may

1458
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:34,880
not agree with what you we are all

1459
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:36,240
they're literally

1460
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:38,000
helping right we don't want to be in an

1461
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:40,000
echo chamber no we don't need to be in

1462
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:41,680
an echo chamber and as much as some of

1463
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:43,280
this sucks i just think sometimes i'm

1464
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:45,760
like oh we need to breathe take a breath

1465
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:48,400
and then just talk and figure this out

1466
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:50,240
yeah you're right i mean i think with

1467
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:51,760
twitter it kind of takes advantage of

1468
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:54,640
people's like uh worst eliminating

1469
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:58,160
traits yeah you know like i can just if

1470
00:50:01,990 --> 00:49:59,920
you're pissed off it's so easy to just

1471
00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:02,000
hit a couple buttons and hit send where

1472
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:03,920
you know if you're in person like well

1473
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:05,520
they might punch me in the mouth so

1474
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:07,760
maybe i won't say it you know

1475
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:11,119
you know or whatever that may be so

1476
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:13,040
yeah it's like and a lot of people

1477
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:15,839
complain about twitter but in a and i

1478
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:17,680
share that frustration but in another

1479
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:20,000
sense it's kind of um

1480
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:22,160
you know if you can figure out how to

1481
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:25,359
make it work with that

1482
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:27,200
nothing's going to stop you

1483
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:28,720
you know

1484
00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:29,520
um

1485
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:31,760
let me ask you about your experience

1486
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:34,000
sure i know you you show me uh your head

1487
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:34,720
back

1488
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:35,920
so

1489
00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:37,200
when you had it

1490
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:39,680
what what's i don't know

1491
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:40,960
i guess a person whenever they

1492
00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:42,240
experience something they do the best

1493
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:43,760
they can to explain it to themselves in

1494
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:45,440
whatever way they can sure how have you

1495
00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:48,400
justified or explained it to yourself

1496
00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:51,839
uh great question um i don't know that i

1497
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:54,720
have really 100 percent um

1498
00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:56,160
definitely

1499
00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:59,280
still trying to figure that out most

1500
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:00,480
definitely

1501
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:02,960
um the main takeaway that i have from it

1502
00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:04,000
is it was

1503
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:06,559
uh it made me pay attention and it put

1504
00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:09,280
me in this place so

1505
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:11,359
all i can think of is that i'm here for

1506
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:13,280
a reason you know maybe i don't know

1507
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:16,000
what that is right now but but i'll find

1508
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:17,119
out

1509
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:19,920
uh you know so i'm just here trying to

1510
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:21,520
do the best i can

1511
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:23,680
be there for people if i can be have a

1512
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:26,880
spot for people to to go to or watch or

1513
00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:28,800
learn or whatever so but with that i

1514
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:31,119
took on responsibility i figured like if

1515
00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:32,880
i'm gonna be here and do this and be put

1516
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:34,720
in this position i'm gonna take it

1517
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:36,480
seriously i'm going to do my research

1518
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:38,079
i'm going to learn as much as i can

1519
00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:40,160
about what's happened already because

1520
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:41,839
when people listen to me and come to my

1521
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:44,319
channel i want them to know that there's

1522
00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:46,880
a knowledge base behind the things i i

1523
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:48,400
say or

1524
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:49,440
or do

1525
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:51,200
you know so that's why i do all that

1526
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:53,440
research and everything so i can you

1527
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:54,160
know

1528
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:55,920
have a pot to piss and so to speak

1529
00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:57,599
versus just interviewing a bunch of

1530
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,680
people and not really knowing much of

1531
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:01,440
what's happened before or what could be

1532
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:04,000
happening now or is this new is this

1533
00:52:08,470 --> 00:52:06,079
different or whatever and i'm still

1534
00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:08,480
learning every day and i have a lot to

1535
00:52:13,109 --> 00:52:09,680
learn but

1536
00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:13,119
um you know i'm put here for a reason

1537
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:14,319
and

1538
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:16,559
i have to respect that

1539
00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:19,440
and do the best i can with it you know

1540
00:52:24,069 --> 00:52:21,920
and so that's that's the my main

1541
00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:24,079
takeaway from it at this point

1542
00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:25,520
i'll tell you sean though that's

1543
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:27,119
important

1544
00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:28,000
me

1545
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:31,040
i had no one else i had you posted i'm

1546
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:33,119
literally ufo twitter's all i had and as

1547
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:34,640
crazy as it sounds that's one of the

1548
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:36,319
important things here you're doing what

1549
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:38,240
you need to do just keep doing it you

1550
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:40,240
experience something

1551
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:43,200
it's very self-isolating right

1552
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:45,839
so sure like i said before if you're

1553
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:47,760
experiencing something like this who do

1554
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:49,280
you talk to whatever it can be isolating

1555
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:51,040
if you have no one to discuss this with

1556
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:53,119
you know how crappy it is that i have to

1557
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:55,359
come compartmentalize my mental health

1558
00:52:58,630 --> 00:52:57,119
i'm very aware what i can and can't say

1559
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:58,640
to my doctors

1560
00:53:02,470 --> 00:53:00,480
and it's like yeah it's kind of crappy

1561
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:02,480
you know but i do so when i have other

1562
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:05,040
people i can discuss this stuff with and

1563
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:06,960
i'm hoping at some point we could be you

1564
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:08,400
know there won't be a whole

1565
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:10,079
compartmentalize this type stuff because

1566
00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:12,000
mental health is pretty important and i

1567
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:14,160
can promise you this is a rabbit hole

1568
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:15,680
that you need to have your mental health

1569
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:17,920
in checked on you know yeah

1570
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:19,359
yeah no

1571
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:22,000
most definitely

1572
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:23,920
definitely you know and you all know

1573
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:27,119
those you know like that's kind of

1574
00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:28,880
what we're afraid of turning into right

1575
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,720
that's like at least when i had my

1576
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:32,880
sightings like i'm afraid i'm gonna be

1577
00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:35,359
that guy that's going aliens are coming

1578
00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:38,480
after me like yeah and everybody's like

1579
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:40,720
that's what happened to sean in the rash

1580
00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:43,599
house that guy's lost it you know like

1581
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:46,000
so that's there's always that fear that

1582
00:53:49,829 --> 00:53:48,000
that may happen to me but the fact that

1583
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:49,839
i'm even thinking about it means you

1584
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:55,589
you know that sucks because i agree with

1585
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:57,440
you someone like me who spent their

1586
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:59,200
entire life like i said i was decorated

1587
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:00,960
out of military 2010 then burned their

1588
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:03,920
life down people only think of yes

1589
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:04,960
that

1590
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:06,640
uh criminal addict whatever the hell you

1591
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:08,559
were ptsd mental patient

1592
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:10,480
here let's just add this stuff to it

1593
00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:11,440
right

1594
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:13,359
yeah i'm sure oh look guys he's getting

1595
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,079
so much better he's talking about uap

1596
00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:18,240
yeah sure so it doesn't matter how much

1597
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:19,599
better you do

1598
00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:21,839
this topic this topic right now is still

1599
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:22,880
kind of

1600
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:24,400
and that's why i'm here i don't care who

1601
00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:31,030
we need not worry about what we seem uh

1602
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:32,960
we only need to worry about being who we

1603
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:35,040
are yeah

1604
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:36,960
yeah and i think you know

1605
00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:39,440
it's it's a part of it you know yeah

1606
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:41,359
that's what it is but that doesn't mean

1607
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:44,240
it has to take over who you are are as a

1608
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:46,720
person you still have to find a way to

1609
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:47,520
be

1610
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:50,000
you and yourself you know as an

1611
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:52,559
individual that's true to yourself and

1612
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:55,839
and not let it uh your whole being be

1613
00:55:00,309 --> 00:54:58,160
that you know or the uap like once it

1614
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:00,319
takes away your individuality that's

1615
00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:03,040
when i think it's a detriment you know

1616
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,960
i brought something up earlier and

1617
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:07,040
i'll tell you what i'll i'll tell you

1618
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:08,720
your podcast at a later date not right

1619
00:55:13,030 --> 00:55:10,880
yet but we had talked about uh how it

1620
00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:13,040
changed my life and things like that

1621
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:14,799
so what if you start whatever you want

1622
00:55:18,829 --> 00:55:16,480
to call it pay attention to things

1623
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,839
downloads whatever what it is

1624
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:20,400
so

1625
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:22,880
what if that

1626
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:28,390
that

1627
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:31,440
exist right

1628
00:55:35,589 --> 00:55:34,319
yeah so on top of that you got usps

1629
00:55:36,789 --> 00:55:35,599
now you know things that you probably

1630
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:36,799
shouldn't that you don't you wish you

1631
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:38,160
didn't

1632
00:55:41,109 --> 00:55:39,520
what do you do with those things what do

1633
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:41,119
you do with the uaps

1634
00:55:44,069 --> 00:55:42,480
you know you got all this baggage on top

1635
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:44,079
of your head

1636
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:46,319
so i come from it from a point of i'm

1637
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:48,000
not saying it's negative i'm saying it's

1638
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,559
a lot and who would believe me this is

1639
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:52,480
let's just say hypothetically

1640
00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:54,319
if i said oh man

1641
00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:56,480
this is happening right over here and

1642
00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:58,079
i'm not talking about you of peace i

1643
00:56:02,870 --> 00:56:00,799
just say i know this is happening

1644
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:02,880
and someone comes along and they said

1645
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,760
okay

1646
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:05,440
show me

1647
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:06,960
how do you show them

1648
00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:09,599
oh i i don't know how i know it is i

1649
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:11,200
mean you know after the fact for sure it

1650
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:12,000
is

1651
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:14,000
you don't know how and i i'm not saying

1652
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:16,240
that it's me per se but i see people

1653
00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:17,680
talk about psyabilities and things like

1654
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:18,720
that and i always play it through and

1655
00:56:21,510 --> 00:56:19,839
i'm like man

1656
00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:21,520
it ain't what you think if you go in

1657
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:22,799
there saying hey guys there's this crime

1658
00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:24,000
this guy got murdered right here at this

1659
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:30,470
oh cool look at this other guy okay yeah

1660
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,559
yeah i kind of get confused because

1661
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:34,880
there's no science or doctors in it so

1662
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,960
sure i always try to play myself through

1663
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:38,640
some of this stuff people get excited i

1664
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:40,000
don't know if i'd be excited about some

1665
00:56:44,230 --> 00:56:42,640
of it and i think

1666
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,240
i don't think anything's happened to me

1667
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:46,000
that i can't explain normally i think

1668
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:47,520
that my eyes have been opened to a world

1669
00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:49,200
that i didn't know existed so now i pay

1670
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:52,640
attention to everything yeah every year

1671
00:56:56,390 --> 00:56:54,640
and i think i see more because of that

1672
00:56:57,910 --> 00:56:56,400
that's all it is maybe it's

1673
00:56:59,589 --> 00:56:57,920
nothing special i mean i'm not saying

1674
00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:59,599
i'm special i'm not definitely not

1675
00:57:02,390 --> 00:57:00,480
special

1676
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:02,400
[\h__\h] i may be messed up

1677
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:04,000
like what's wrong with this guy let's

1678
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:07,200
see what's up over here you know no i

1679
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:09,040
think you're right i think you're right

1680
00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:10,240
i think it's

1681
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:12,400
opened you up to more

1682
00:57:15,829 --> 00:57:14,400
uh possibilities that aren't like

1683
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:15,839
because one thing they say about like

1684
00:57:20,789 --> 00:57:18,880
meditation consciousness is be here you

1685
00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:20,799
know be in

1686
00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:22,799
the now mindfulness or whatever you want

1687
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,240
to call it right because everybody's

1688
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:26,400
thinking of the future everybody's

1689
00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:28,240
thinking of the past one votes are

1690
00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:30,559
really just imagined right and we're not

1691
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:32,880
living in the current in the now which

1692
00:57:36,789 --> 00:57:35,040
is where everything is happening

1693
00:57:39,589 --> 00:57:36,799
and when you see stuff like that it kind

1694
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:39,599
of forces you to put you there like

1695
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:40,400
wow

1696
00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:42,640
what is happening and when that happens

1697
00:57:45,670 --> 00:57:43,599
when you pay attention your

1698
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:45,680
consciousness you live in the now i

1699
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:48,960
think um you know you're you become

1700
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:51,440
intuitively more aware of a lot

1701
00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:53,359
of of different stuff

1702
00:57:56,309 --> 00:57:55,359
you know um

1703
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:56,319
what's

1704
00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:57,520
absolutely

1705
00:58:02,230 --> 00:58:00,720
insane about this whole experience is

1706
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:02,240
that you can this is an experience you

1707
00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:03,680
can share with people and it seems that

1708
00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:05,119
people don't

1709
00:58:08,950 --> 00:58:06,400
i'm going to go with the infectious

1710
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:08,960
disease model right

1711
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:10,640
and i only say that because i i don't

1712
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:11,760
think i've ever been not being able to

1713
00:58:14,309 --> 00:58:12,960
point it out and like i said i keep

1714
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:14,319
going back to it's just how people could

1715
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:19,910
and

1716
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:23,520
gonna shake some stuff up this isn't

1717
00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:26,079
like hey guess what you need to choose

1718
00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:28,880
tacos tonight instead of nachos this is

1719
00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:31,599
everything you thought you knew bs

1720
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:33,119
yeah so

1721
00:58:37,349 --> 00:58:35,680
it's just like i don't know when or how

1722
00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:37,359
it's going to change

1723
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:39,040
i just thought i'd do my part i'm not a

1724
00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:40,559
little concerned about people thinking

1725
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:41,920
i'm crazy so

1726
00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:44,079
well i had a great talk with dan we're

1727
00:58:47,589 --> 00:58:46,000
up against the hour but i mean i have

1728
00:58:49,589 --> 00:58:47,599
had a wonderful time with you and i

1729
00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:49,599
thank you so much for talking about this

1730
00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:51,599
stuff and for you know serving our

1731
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:54,559
country and having the the the strength

1732
00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:56,640
to come out here and and talk about your

1733
00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:58,559
own experiences and everything

1734
00:59:01,349 --> 00:59:00,160
i really do appreciate it and thank you

1735
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:01,359
and i know this won't be the last time

1736
00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:04,000
we talk whether it be on social or here

1737
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:06,240
so i appreciate you sean thank you sorry

1738
00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:08,079
for the question

1739
00:59:13,990 --> 00:59:10,960
don't about stop apologizing man you're

1740
00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:14,000
great you're great i loved it so i

1741
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:15,599
thought it was very good in my book it's

1742
00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:17,119
the first conversation i've ever had

1743
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:18,799
with another person in the last two

1744
00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:24,789
all right brother that sounds good all

1745
00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:26,400
right will you have a great rest of the

1746
00:59:30,829 --> 00:59:28,960
day and yeah we'll talk soon all right

1747
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:30,839
take care

1748
00:59:36,230 --> 00:59:33,680
bye all right everybody thanks so much

1749
00:59:37,589 --> 00:59:36,240
for hanging out i had a great time uh

1750
00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:37,599
with shane

1751
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:38,799
i really

1752
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:40,000
um

1753
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:41,680
really hope you enjoyed the conversation

1754
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:43,920
i hope that more people can have the

1755
00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:45,200
strength that he did to come out and

1756
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:46,799
talk about this stuff and the things

1757
00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:48,720
that he's been through and you know i

1758
00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:50,079
think in the end

1759
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:53,280
admitting that we don't know the answer

1760
00:59:57,510 --> 00:59:56,160
um is key to a lot of this stuff right

1761
00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:57,520
because a lot of us don't want to talk

1762
01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:59,119
about stuff that that we don't

1763
01:00:02,950 --> 01:00:00,720
understand

1764
01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:02,960
that you know it's like a salesman if

1765
01:00:07,349 --> 01:00:05,599
you go to a car dealership and somebody

1766
01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:07,359
goes to the salesman and asks about a

1767
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:09,119
car and they don't know the answer that

1768
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:10,240
person

1769
01:00:14,950 --> 01:00:12,880
the salesman becomes uncomfortable

1770
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:14,960
and they either lie or they don't talk

1771
01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:17,680
about it they redirect right but we have

1772
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:22,319
to learn how to be okay with not knowing

1773
01:00:26,230 --> 01:00:24,240
you know and a lot of that just comes

1774
01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:26,240
from admission

1775
01:00:31,109 --> 01:00:29,359
of not knowing and once you do that

1776
01:00:33,270 --> 01:00:31,119
i think we can respect each other and be

1777
01:00:34,789 --> 01:00:33,280
on the same playing field right there

1778
01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:34,799
you know

1779
01:00:38,069 --> 01:00:36,400
and we can get a lot further with this

1780
01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:38,079
and just other stuff

1781
01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:39,359
so

1782
01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:42,000
with that being said i appreciate your

1783
01:00:44,950 --> 01:00:42,960
time

1784
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:44,960
you guys have been a great

1785
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:46,960
group today i really do appreciate it

1786
01:00:52,630 --> 01:00:48,160
everybody

1787
01:00:54,309 --> 01:00:52,640
um if you know me i'm angry

1788
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:54,319
so we got some great shows coming up too

1789
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:56,720
later this week um so

1790
01:01:01,750 --> 01:00:58,559
um stay tuned like the video if you

1791
01:01:03,109 --> 01:01:01,760
haven't uh share it subscribe do all

1792
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:03,119
that kind of stuff

1793
01:01:13,450 --> 01:01:07,920
um and yeah we will see you soon

1794
01:01:13,460 --> 01:01:23,349
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1795
01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:28,530
um